Thank you. It’s a pleasure to be interviewed by you.
Where do you
currently reside? Have you always lived there? If you could
live any where in the world where would it be?
I live in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I have always
lived. If I could choose a place to live anywhere in the
world, it would be Hawaii. I vacationed there years ago and
it is truly an island of paradise.
Where can our
readers find and contact you?
I love to hear from readers. They can contact me by email
email@example.com or visit my website at:
You have quite a
few newly released books this year. There’s a wonderful
mixture of inspirational, suspense, and nonfiction.
It’s been a busy year. My genre of choice is suspense, for
both reading and writing. Stories of inspiration draw
emotion from readers, leaving them with a feeling of peace.
Suspense, on the other hand, is exhilarating, moving along
at an accelerated pace until the riveting climax.
Can you please
tell us a little about your latest release, TOUCHED BY AN
Touched by an Angel is a story of spiritual healing. Charles
struggles with his faith after the death of his wife. He
misses Jill terribly and decides to end his life. But just
as he’s about to jump off the cliffs of the Mojave Desert,
he hears Jill’s voice, telling him it’s not his time. And
when Charles meets Emma, who looks so much like Jill she
could be her twin, he fears he is losing his mind. As the
story unfolds, Charles and Emma discover their spouses have
died on the same day and are buried side by side in the same
cemetery. Charles is drawn to Emma, but feels he is
betraying his wife. Before Charles can move on, he has to
face his past. I want readers to feel the deep devotion
Charles felt for his wife, his unwillingness to let her go.
The message I hope to deliver in Touched by an Angel is that
everything comes full circle under God’s plan. Death is a
part of life. But while we’re on earth, we have to make
every day count.
I noticed that
the main character for TOUCHED BY AN ANGEL, Charles, is a
widower. Do you have any preferences when it comes to
gender for your protagonists?
For the most part, I choose a woman for my protagonist. And
there are never any in betweens. She is either sweet and
demure and has to face something that will toughen her
skin—or she already is tough enough to take on the whole
world with attitude personified. The reason I usually have a
woman protagonist is because I feared I couldn’t express a
man’s emotions. But through Charles, I learned that beneath
a tough exterior beats a warm and loving heart, every bit as
sensitive as a woman’s.
In what way is
Charles unique from other characters in your other books?
Speaking of ghosts, Charles haunted my dreams on a regular
basis. Touched by an Angel sat on my hard drive for years,
titled The Yellow Rose--an assignment for my first writing
class. In the original manuscript, Charles was an older man,
a distinguished gentleman with a quiet demeanor. Devoted to
his mother’s memory, he faithfully decorated her grave with
a wreath of yellow roses. Last year when I challenged myself
to write a short inspirational, Charles sprouted wings and
came soaring out of my computer and into my dreams. And
after being silenced for so long, he came out giving me lip.
He let me know he was no mama’s boy—and wasn’t about to play
the role of some old fuddy duddy that had no life other than
placing flowers on his mother’s grave.
The new and improved Charles fancied himself Charles the
stud. He wanted to be young and hot looking. And he demanded
I create a gorgeous leading lady to do him justice. So
keeping the inspirational theme with the cemetery and the
yellow rose, Touched by an Angel was born. And Charles got
his way and got a makeover. The new and improved Charles is
in his early thirties, has black wavy hair, and midnight
blue eyes that could melt butter. I figured Charles would
stop starring in my dreams once the manuscript was
contracted and published. No such luck. Now Charles comes to
me in a dream, demanding to know how sales are going.
Can you tell us
something about Emma?
When I created the theme for Touched by an Angel, I
envisioned the heroine a sweet woman with an inner wisdom
that made her shine. To me, the name Emma is regal, a name
that remains timeless and ageless. And this made her the
perfect woman for Charles. Even though Emma has lost the
great love of her life, she has accepted it and is willing
to move on. Emma is a sensitive woman whose tranquil nature
has a hypnotic effect on Charles. Rather than being angry at
God for taking away the love of her life, Emma takes comfort
in knowing her husband is out of pain and in God’s hands.
Charles’ deceased wife. There’s an old saying that everyone
has a twin in the world or that sometimes people are
reincarnated. Did this have an effect in creating Emma’s
character? What are your views on reincarnation?
They say opposites attract. But Charles is as stubborn as
the day is long. Totally absorbed in his self-pity, the only
emotion he lets out is his anger. If a feisty woman
expressed an interest in Charles, he’d strike out with an
angry outburst, head for the hills, and burrow deeper into
his bubble of self-pity. I needed something to shock Charles
back to the present and bring him back to life. In Charles
opinion, no one could possibly hold a candle to Jill, his
deceased wife. But if someone who was her striking image
came along, the shock would snap him back to the present.
How many times I did a double take when I swore I saw
someone who had died. It gave me chills, making me feel as
if I’d just seen a ghost. So if a stranger could evoke this
kind of emotion in me, what would the haunting image of his
deceased wife do to Charles? Charles was walking around like
the living dead, so caught up in his life with Jill, the
world around him stopped revolving. So I created Emma to
show Charles how to let go and move on. Through Emma,
Charles found the strength to lay Jill to rest and open his
heart to love.
Do I believe in reincarnation? I don’t know, but part of my
heritage is Irish—and that makes me superstitious by nature.
I’d like to think that those who have made mistakes could
come back and be a better person the second time around.
I’ve experienced déjà vue so many times, feeling as if I’d
been to a place I never set foot in. It’s something so
brief, the smell of a rose, the sound of the waves, the feel
of a piece of jewelry in my hand. And it’s the same with
people. How many times I meet someone for the first time and
feel as if I’d known them forever. Other times, something so
coincidental will happen, I swear reincarnation truly does
exist. My aunt loved the blue bird. She had an entire
collection of them in her home. Shortly after she died, a
blue bird nested in the tree outside my window, chirping a
cheery hello. I believe the special are chosen to come back
as guardian angels.
popular TV series years ago called “Touched by an Angel”.
Was this series an influence in any way in writing this
No. Even though I was a fan of the show, it had no influence
on my story whatsoever. Angels hold a special place in my
heart and I’ll tell you why. Several years ago, I developed
a rare brain infection and wasn’t expected to live. My
neurologist scheduled me for risky brain surgery. The day
before I went to the hospital, I went out and bought an
angel charm and hung it around my neck on a chain. The
minute I secured the clasp, I was filled with a sense of
peace and tranquility I’d never known. I knew whatever the
outcome, I’d be all right. And I prayed to my guardian angel
for a miracle. The morning of my brain surgery, my doctor
cancelled the operation. He told me in his professional
opinion, I would not have survived the operation. He treated
the infection aggressively, giving me an antibiotic
distributed intravenously for six hours every day for a
solid month. The side effects were harsh, worse than chemo.
I was exhausted, an apparition of my former self. But I
never once gave up hope—and never took off my angel
necklace. Through the power
of prayer and my angel, I beat the odds and recovered. So
you can see why angels play a significant role not only in
my life, but in my writings. Angels lift us when we are too
weak to lift ourselves. In my darkest hour, my guardian
angel never left my side.
upcoming releases, THE CLADDAGH RING, LASTING LOVE and MASK
OF THE BETRAYER, are just around the corner. I’m sure our
readers would love to hear a bit more about these new
The Claddagh Ring is a story about a woman’s search for her
purpose in life. This is a St. Patrick’s Day story published
by The Wild Rose Press. When Meghan O’Malley’s mother died,
she left her a family heirloom, The Claddagh Ring. The
Claddagh pattern has a heart, two hands holding the heart,
and a crown on top of the heart. According to Irish legend,
the wearer of the ring will find love, friendship and
loyalty. But the ring has to be worn in a certain way in
order for the spell to work. Worn on the right hand with the
heart facing outward means the heart is open and searching
for love. Worn on the left hand with the heart facing
outward means you have found someone. And when worn on the
left hand with the heart facing inward means you are
committed to your one true love for life.
Meghan Shannon O’Malley is a feisty redhead who owns a bar
and grill on Chicago’s waterfront. When her mother leaves
her the Claddagh Ring, she tells Meghan everything in her
life will come full circle. She tells her that if she wears
the ring, she will find her soulmate as well as a purpose.
And when Meghan meets the ruggedly handsome Rork McGuire,
sparks fly. But Rork has a dark secret that tests the legend
behind the ring.
Lasting Love is an Easter story published by The Wild Rose
Press. Abbey Jordan owns a garden nursery in rural Vermont.
When her assistant quits right before Easter, one of the
busiest times of the year, Abbey places it in God’s hands.
And when she hires Brady as her horticultural manager, he
seems like an answer to her prayers. But when Abbey’s
greenhouse burns down the night before Easter, she buries
all hope of love beneath the bed of ashes. In Lasting Love,
I use a dramatic scene to illustrate the true meaning of
Mask of the Betrayer is a suspense, a thriller about a
serial killer stalking the foothills of Red Rock Canyon. He
leaves his signature—a skull mask on the corpse. But when
the homicide cop realizes the crimes are a reenactment of a
crime never solved, all fingers point to a prominent
businessman. And when Margot realizes she is married to the
killer, her life becomes a living nightmare. Mask of the
Betrayer has a very complex plot with several subplots. The
main character is a sociopath, totally void of all emotions.
Raised by his uncle, a Vegas icon who was deeply connected
to organized crime before his death, he trained Michael to
kill any and all who betrayed the family.
Mask of the Betrayer is more of a psychological thriller,
dealing with the complexity of the mind. I take the reader
back to Michael’s childhood when he was a sweet boy who
lived with his parents in a small fishing port off the coast
of Tuscany. Michael led a simple life with loving parents
until they were killed in a car crash. At the age of twelve,
Michael is sent to live with his father’s brother, a man
without a conscience or soul. And when Michael realizes he
is being trained to kill, he slowly but surely loses his
sanity. Psychology fascinates me. The mind is a tricky faux,
weak in even the strongest of people. It can bend. It can
twist. And it can snap. I am currently seeking
representation for Mask of the Betrayer.
Is there a
message in your novels that you want readers to grasp?
Yes. When I write stories of inspiration, I want to leave
readers with a feeling of hope. Never give up on your
dreams. Follow your heart over the rainbow until you find
your pot of gold. Writing inspires me and I’d like to think
I inspire readers with my writing. I think everyone deserves
a happily-ever-after—and I give my characters that gift in
my stories. Now as far as suspense, that’s totally
different, a complete 180. I want to create storylines that
have readers on the edge of their seats, keep them turning
the pages. When I read a suspense book, I expect the most
compelling scenes to send chills skittering down my spine. I
like when stories take an unexpected twist when you least
expect it. So given these facts, I try to incorporate these
things into my writing.
People often ask me why I write both inspiration and
suspense. It’s actually very simple. I’ve been through so
much in my life, so much trauma and heartache, writing
stories of hope is my way of reaching out to people who need
a little sunshine in their lives. Not only that, but writing
is good therapy…and a lot cheaper. Now when life gets the
best of me and I feel shall we say less than inspired, I
just go out and kill someone in the wonderful world of
Has anyone ever
compared your work to any other authors such as Andrew
Greeley or Danielle Steele?
Mask of the Betrayer was originally entitled Raptured, a
story I started in my first creative writing class. After
reading the last chapter, my teacher told the entire class
it reminded her of a John Grisham novel.
I want to move
on to your non-fiction work.
ECHO OF A RAVEN
is described as “narrative non-fiction” instead of an
autobiography. Can you please offer us more insight into
why this isn’t classified as an autobiography?
An autobiography is a person’s account of his or her own
life. A narrative non-fiction is a retelling of a true story
in which a series of events come to life on the page. And
that’s precisely what happens in Echo of a Raven. Diagnosed
as a type 1 diabetic at the age of six, a doctor at
Children’s Hospital predicted I would be blind by time I was
twenty-five. His cruel words changed the entire course of my
life, affecting every decision I made for years to come. His
words haunted me. They consumed me. They devoured me. No
matter where I was or what I was doing, the words echoed in
my head. I was afraid to drive for fear I’d go blind and
kill someone. I was afraid to get close to anyone for fear
of rejection. I was always afraid. Yet no one knew my fears,
not even my family or closest friends. I never discussed his
venomous words because I thought if I said them aloud they
would surely come true. And at the age of twenty-one when I
had the initial bout of blindness, I went a little crazy. I
had a fantastic job at the courthouse in the Family
Division. I spent my weekends horseback riding and doing
what I love most—painting.
For the next two decades, I underwent countless operations
where my vision came and went. It was an emotional roller
coaster that tore me apart. With each passing year, I lost
more and more vision, and more and more of my independence
and dignity. And when I had the final operation, the outcome
was total blindness, much to my shock and horror. Devastated
and disillusioned, I enrolled in a sixteen-week program for
the blind and visually impaired. The classes demanded
discipline, motivation—and a whole lot of guts. Some of the
classes were access technology where I was taught how to use
a computer with adaptive software. Another class was
personal adjustment, relearning basic skills as grooming,
shopping, keeping a checkbook and organization skills
without sight. Group therapy was for dealing with anger
issues, and the worst, being trained to use the dreaded
In Echo of a Raven, I take the reader on a brutally honest
journey to some of the darkest recesses of my mind. I use
raw but direct quotes that might shock and offend. But as
my writing teacher told me, if the reader is to get the real
feel of what went on inside this institution, the explicit
language must be quoted; otherwise, the reader will not be
drawn in. Without bringing my true-life characters to life
on a page, the reader will never know or understand the
extremes we faced. The sixteen weeks I spent at Pittsburgh
Vision have left a lasting imprint on my brain.
Echo of a Raven is not for the weak at heart. Anger is not
pretty and everyone deals with it in a different way. I use
shocking anecdotes of my sixteen-week stay at Pittsburgh
Vision. Some of these include: the humiliation of being
fitted for a white cane, the sheer terror of being
disoriented in traffic, being forced to talk about my
feelings in front of strangers at group therapy, explosive
anger issues straight out of the Wild Wild West.
I have read memoirs about a person losing his or her vision,
but none with such prolific details told from an insider’s
point of view. It was an incredible journey filled with
heart-wrenching pain. We laughed and we cried. We bonded in
a way words could not describe. Part of the reason I was
reluctant to enroll in this program was I thought other
clients would be uneducated. I was wrong. They were all
ordinary people with extraordinary problems--thrust into a
living nightmare due to circumstances beyond control. There
were teachers, engineers, doctors, all with some type of eye
disease that was literally robbing them blind. Some had the
added burden of facing marital problems because a spouse was
unable to deal with the pending blindness. I would not have
survived the most challenging ordeal of my life without this
special group of people. What didn’t kill me made me
How did you come
up with the title for this work?
My life story could be a Stephen King movie. When I was ten
years old, I went for a routine visit to Children’s Hospital
for my diabetes. I saw whatever doctor was on staff that
day. Diagnosed as a type 1 diabetic at the age of six, I was
used to doctors. And until this day, the doctors at
Children’s Hospital treated me in the manner one would
expect a physician to treat a child. But on this particular
day, the protocol I’d become accustomed to was shattered. I
was sitting in the examination room with my mother when the
doctor stormed through the door with my blood work, his mood
dark, fueled with anger. The first words out of his mouth
were, “Your sugars are much too high. You’ll be blind by
time you’re twenty-five.”
His cruel words changed the entire course of my life. From
that day on, his words echoed in my head, affecting every
major decision I made for years to come. His face faded with
time—but his words echoed in my head forevermore. I lived in
constant fear of losing my vision. One night when reading an
English assignment, The Raven by Edgar Allan Poe, the doctor
haunted my dreams. I heard a tapping at my window and went
to look out. When I parted the curtains, a huge black raven
was perched on my window pane. In the voice of that doctor,
he screeched, “You’ll be blind by time you’re twenty-five.”
The raven haunted my subconscious for years to come. I
became so enmeshed in my future I missed out on the present.
The only time I found peace was when I painted picturesque
scenery, slipping into another place and time. Painting was
my sanctuary, my passion. But after a long and winding road,
a new dream has resurrected. Today, instead of painting my
pictures on canvas, I paint my pictures with words.
Why did you
choose to write this particular book?
I enrolled in a memoir class a few years ago. Uncertain of
what to write, I began writing stories about my stay at
Pittsburgh Vision. My teacher and classmates became so
enthralled they couldn’t wait for the next chapter. My
teacher felt this story had the potential for a movie. He
wrote a column in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and put me in
touch with his editor—who in turn challenged me to write an
excerpt from my memoir. I did and Worst Fear was published
in the Life Support column in April of 26. The results
Many people facing similar problems called me to ask for
phone numbers and addresses of organizations which could
help someone they knew facing a progressive eye disease.
Even though the seed was planted in my mind to write an
entire book about my struggles with diabetic retinopathy, it
didn’t blossom until the following year. I took yet another
memoir class with another instructor—and with her urging
along with the entire class egging me on—I accepted the
My teacher said it was unlike anything she had ever read.
She said it would shock, fascinate and teach the general
public as well as inspire those facing an eye disease. At
first, I shied away from the challenge. It is very hard to
reveal such intimate details of one’s life, open up one’s
heart and soul. But when others supported my teacher’s
proposal, I set aside my apprehensions and buckled down.
Writing this story open scars that will never completely
heal. Some of these memories came back with such vivid
recollection, I felt as if I were reliving that turbulent
time all over again. I’d get so upset I had to walk away
before I literally fell apart. But I pushed myself to go
back to it, keep plugging away for the sake of helping
those in similar situations. And that’s my goal, my mission.
Echo of a Raven is a must read for diabetics, those facing a
visual impairment, and for intelligent people who want to
find a cure for this world-wide epidemic. With America in
the lead at 20.8 million, there are more than 230 million
diabetics with the number rapidly increasing. Close to half
of these diabetics will develop some stage of retinopathy.
In under-developed countries, being diagnosed with diabetes
is a death sentence because of insufficient health care.
Isn’t it time to end this world-wide epidemic?
Have you written
any other non-fiction books?
No. I’ve learned to never say never---but I will say it’s
The story about
how you became a writer is inspirational to anyone with
goals and dreams no matter what challenges they might face.
Did your own life inspire you to write inspiration fiction?
Absolutely. Hope is the nucleus of who I am. If I give up on
a dream, all hope is lost. And until I draw my last breath
on this earth, I will keep hoping for a brighter tomorrow.
Do you ever
include any of your life experiences, even friends in your
Many times. I attended a writers’ convention where the
speaker gave some sound advice. She said if you want to
bring your character to life, think of a person you know
with a similar personality. It’s amazing how my characters
natural since I’ve taken
this advice to heart. I imagine talking to this person I’m
using as a role model and the character’s voice and
personality come alive with amazing clarity.
What books have
most influenced your life?
Before the loss of my vision, I was not much of a reader. My
free time was spent horseback riding and painting. When I
lost my vision, I was introduced to audio books. For some
reason, I was under the impression the choice in books would
be both limited and boring. Once more, I was proven wrong.
The first set of books I got was Nora Roberts trilogy, The
Jewels series about the Gallaghers of Ardmore, Ireland. Not
only was the writing superb, but the woman who narrated the
books truly brought the characters to life. It was like
being at a play. I became so enthralled with the
descriptions of Ireland I knew I’d have to visit some day.
Some day came three years ago when my family and I traveled
to the Emerald Isle. My dad’s father was born in County Cork
and we toured it along with the entire island. We stayed at
a medieval castle where the Earl himself used to entertain
guests several centuries ago. We were greeted at the door by
a kilted piper and a glass of Mead.
Ireland is filled with rugged landscape, rolling green
hills and sheep grazing high on the hill. The music is sweet
and lyrical. When I walked through the castles and villages,
I felt as if I had been transported in time to a place where
magic truly exists. It’s an enchanting land of legend and
lore. I was so intrigued with the legend of the Claddagh, it
inspired me to write my upcoming story—The Claddagh ring.
INTERVIEWED: How and where can we purchase all the books
Touched by an Angel is available at The Wild Rose Press. As
or through my website
The Claddagh Ring will be available as an e-Book
February 25, 2009 from
The Wild Rose Press
or my website
Lasting Love will be available as an e-Book from
The Wild Rose Press
March 18, 2009
or my website
I am currently seeking representation for Mask of the
Betrayer and Echo of a Raven.
How long does it
take you to write a book?
It all depends. I started my first book in 2002 as Raptured.
After several writing classes and several revisions, it is
now Mask of the Betrayer. It was a learning experience, my
first attempt at writing. It takes time to develop sharp
writing skills. And through my many mistakes, I have learned
to follow a more definite outline. I do character sketches,
imagine what my characters would buy when I’m shopping, the
food and clothes they would buy. Now that I have the basic
writing skills mastered, my writing moves along at a much
smoother pace—and a lot faster. But still, it’s impossible
to say how long it takes to write a book. Sometimes, life
just has a habit of getting in the way.
What do you do
when you’re not writing?
I like to cook. Cooking relaxes me. Again, my creative muse
shines through in this hobby. Cooking is a form of art and
creation. I dabble in the simple to the gourmet—depending on
time and deadlines as well as the occasion. I am a huge fan
of audio books. Some of my favorite authors are Nora Roberts
writing as J.D. Robb—the In Death series, Lisa Jackson,
Sandra Brown, James Patterson, Tami Hoag and Sydney Sheldon.
I’m a member of a wine and dining group where we try new
eateries around the city of Pittsburgh. I collect Waterford
crystal, Fennel and Santas from around the world.
What does your
family and friends think of your work?
They are my biggest fans! Grin!
What do you
consider the most difficult part about writing?
Two things come to mind. Finding the time—and writing about
myself. It is very difficult for me to post something about
myself or my reviews on the various groups out there. I was
brought up not to brag and never had much to brag about to
boot in the last two decades. I was in such a dim light for
so long, being in the lime light for author spotlights and
interviews humbles me. So many disheartening things happened
to me in my life, I keep waiting to wake up from a dream.
Where do you get
your information or ideas to write books?
I’d like to say by traveling the world, but that would be a
fib. Outside of Ireland serving as research for The Claddagh
Ring, most of my research is through the Internet. With the
technical support of Glenn, my disembodied cyber space buddy
who narrates the words on the screen, I research the setting
for my stories. Glenn can be pretty loud, mouthing off
sometimes even when I don’t ask for his opinion. I swear he
has a bit of the Irish in him, mischievous by nature. On
election day when I was sitting in front of my computer,
deeply lost in my thought, he announced in his monotone
voice, “Don’t forget to vote.”
I nearly jumped out of my skin. Even if he isn’t programmed
to read something, he reads the pop up messages
automatically. Glenn gets on my nerves sometimes, but for
the most part, he’s a Godsend. He’s a real trooper, reading
my email, documents, whatever I research on the Internet.
And he never bugs me for a raise. If I could just program
him to do a coffee run, I might consider giving him that
How many books
have you written?
I have three e-Books published by The Wild Rose Press. Mask
of the Betrayer is a full-length novel--complete and looking
for a home. I am half finished with its sequel, Vengeance.
Another suspense novel is currently under review, and Echo
of a Raven has the finishing touches to add before it
reaches fruition. I am a member of a writers group where we
have just published our first anthology—Northland Writers at
Work where I have five short stories.
What are your
most current writing projects now?
I have just submitted my latest suspense for review. It is
about an author whose biggest fan turns into her biggest
nightmare. The setting is Napa Valley, modern day. When Tess
Kincaid returns to her childhood home, a seaside mansion
overlooking the rugged cliffs of the Pacific Ocean, she
learns the hard way one can never go home again. This story
is a full length novel, filled with all of my favorite
things. Suspense. Inspiration. Romance. Intrigue. That’s all
folks. Stay tuned for coming attractions.
What do you feel
contributes to making a successful writer?
Attend writers conferences, workshops, critique groups,
whatever it takes to sharpen your writing skills. Criticism
takes some getting used to, but the end result is a polished
gem. Critique partners and critique groups offer so much in
the way of honest reviews. Just because you think your work
is ready for submission doesn’t mean everyone shares your
enthusiasm. If more than one person views your crystal
clear manuscript as clear as mud, you have a problem. The
job of the author is to please its audience—the reader. I
belong to several critique groups and learn something new
every day. I know I’m a better writer today than I was
yesterday—but not as good as I’ll be tomorrow.
on a desert island. Name one person from anywhere in history
or literature you would like to accompany you and three
things you would take with you.
It sure wouldn’t be Edgar Allan Poe. When I think of being
stranded on a desert island, Gilligan’s Island comes to
mind. And that was filmed in Hawaii, a very tranquil and
beautiful place. Hmm. King Arthur comes to mind. Narrowing
it down to three things is a bit of a challenge. Water, lip
balm and a journal.
Can you share
with us the most remarkable and moving thing that has
happened to you since you first started writing?
The power of networking. So many doors have opened since
I’ve started writing. I have made so many friends and
connections world-wide and the list keeps growing.
I want to thank
you for spending time with us and our readers today.
Thank you so
much for your time!
Thank you so much for the interview. It was my pleasure.